Association For Psychological Sciencec........... An interesting article on the arousal patterns of gay men, men and women and the differences in the brain. Men's arousal patterns seem rather obvious , but women's have a bisexual arousel pattern............. www.psychologicalscience.org/media...12.cfm
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Red wuM00N
Vancouver
  • Unsu...
     
    And your thoughts on the article are?
    I agree that most women get turned on by both sexes, while guys don't so much.
    However, I think that guys are more forthcoming on the topic when they are attracted to both males and females.
    Betcha
  • That's very interesting!

    A (very straight) ex girlfriend would get very aroused after thumbing through my Playboy magazines, but as she explained it, she wasn't picturing herself being with those women, but rather BEING those women. I think that straight men have a completely different, and much narrower, perspective about erotica than women do.
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      'I think that straight men have a completely different, and much narrower, perspective about erotica than women do.'
      Maybe that and/or women lie.
      :-)
      Betcha.....
      they do.
      • Looking at this a little differently ............. I 've been involved in a discussion group with a few women , (one who has been researching/exploring/counseling in alternative lifestyles at least 15 yrs or more) .. with ages from mid 20's -late 50's for several years and in the last couple several men have joined in. We talk about relationship & sexuality, mostly from a western perspective. What has been suggested is that in general it seems that women's sexual expression/identity has been shifting much more over the years in comparison to heterosexual men's and that we have more freedom/acceptance to explore different roles. That perhaps a new female sexuality has been emerging as women have been delaying marriage & children often for careers & independance. The generation of women now in their 20's seem to explore a lot more sexually with both women & men more openly, women choose a mate later in life, are having fewer children,older women who have ended long monogamous relationships often explore women late in life 40's -50's. The related article about female arousal patterns would support this idea that women are more capable of being in relationship with either sex ...... " aroused by both, why choose one or other .. probably for other reasons then sexual arousal " Nature, nurture, social, culture, religion,media , financial, so many external forces telling us how to act & behave. Are we actually coming into our own sexuality separate from how men choose to view us ? How have these changes impacted men and their roles ?
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          and she fires!

          direct hit.

          It seems to me that most human behaviour, especially societal flux, is in reaction to pre-existing social patterns, in this case the dreaded "patriarchy" aka, doom of the sacred femenine vis a vis the emerging dominance (historically) of the god who tells. The proliferation and trendiness of "gayness" is a similar response. Today's "sensetive man", or "pussy" is a similar phenomenon. Add to that the real psycho-spiritual evolution of the race, and the advancement of astrological influences, eg; bull, to ram, to fish approaching human (aquarius), and pretty soon it'll be ok for anyone consenting to do anything. As to your actual question, Gwen, the demonic "tell-box" is the primary factor in influencing society to cut the balls off the men and turn them into tools. Death to Alan Donahue!
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            "Today's "sensitive man", or "pussy" " LMAO

            A discussion group could be regional thought the same as the elections.
            I don't know how yours is Gwen. so am opting out on that for right now.

            "Are we actually coming into our own sexuality separate from how men choose to view us ? How have these changes impacted men and their roles ?"
            As long as a woman is equal on all aspects of equality; I am good with it.
            If one prefers certain aspects of equality, but expects to be "treated as a woman" in other areas; I think that is b.s.
            Betcha
            • For clarity, by way of an example could you please explain further what you mean by, ............. If one prefers certain aspects of equality, but expects to be "treated as a woman" in other areas ??
              • Gwen,

                I think I get what Betcha is trying to express here, and Betcha if I'm wrong feel free to correct me.

                A woman wanting to be treated as an equal to a man, equality means across the board, so per my example for you:
                if a draft should some time in the future happen in the U.S. it would only be right that this include women as well, since we want to be seen equal to man, we should be expected to hold up to the same. We cannot expect it and then run off crying when we get it.

                Just my 2 cents

                Lynn
                • Scary example ...... I don't believe either sex should be sent to war, besides generally women are not as strong physically . Both sexes have different capabilities but can we not equally respect each other. Why is it that a man can not show emotion without being called a "pussy", do we believe the stereotypical roles that much . Just about everyday we read in the paper or hear in the news about the man that raped or killed ....... the man we should all fear. Many women are scared to go out alone or after dark. Male sexuality is depicted in the media to be bad, ugly and often brutal. What message are we sending men about themselves, that there is something wrong at their very core. What is it in men's psyche that they can turn on one another and fight each other in minutes.............. Interesting enough a friend told me about an interview with a hired killer who committed around 20 murders and he only regretted one that was a woman. At the time the intended hit occurred, the victim was suppose to be alone in a car but instead there was a couple in the back seat. Yet he only regretted the woman's death. Do men feel disposable ?? ........... Does all this then make it easier to send men off to war even though they might loose their own life in the process ......... I wish I could remember the exact statistic but apparently around 85% of soldiers do not shoot their guns in war (higher then expected) that might lead one to believe that most men are just not cut out to kill either. Looks a lot like we are all just pawns in this game of life.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    Gwen,
                    I agree that is it as scary example, but I thought it worth the point. The reason why I used it, is I am x-military and watched a lot of female friends being deployed. For me, it is something in the foreseeable future, as their have been many female fighter pilots over the years. We keep inching closer to that reality, and I use the word inching, as that is how this is progressing, as far as females in the military. I also look at how things have changed since I enlisted, 16 years ago, the "acceptable" recruit guidelines have become even more lax, and when those don't fill the void of the military quota...women are the next available for their maintaining the force.

                    "Why is it that a man can not show emotion without being called a "pussy", do we believe the stereotypical roles that much . Just about everyday we read in the paper or hear in the news about the man that raped or killed ....... the man we should all fear."

                    I agree with your point here as well. I also feel that the same stereotyping is done to women, but in a different since, whether it has to do with job performance/qualifications, as well as sexuality.

                    "What is it in men's psyche that they can turn on one another and fight each other in minutes....."

                    there was a time, when even I, a female would do the same. What changed that for me, having kids.
                    • Hey Lynn Definitely women are stereotyped and I have met and seen many aggressive females as well as males ................ Having children can certainly change your views on life I hear. Looking to animals in the wild, they can be quite vicious when it comes to protecting their young and I would suspect that if it came down to one's children that we human's could also get quite aggressive. I've seen many mother's (including my own/ all girls) that were over protective and controlling of their children's environment and quite a bit was around men in particular. Unfortunately fear can often get the better of us when we are not looking at events clearly and it can really stifle our emotional well being, intellectual growth & relationship skills, speaking from personal experiences .......... Would you say that it would be likely for you as well if it came down to your children's safety? If applicable, were you more protective of your girl over your boy as this is probably so ingrained in most of us . Trying to keep this condensed as the topic seems to be expanding.
                      • Gwen,
                        I would say that I have in the past protected both of them. a child, be it a boy or a girl is still a child.
                        • In response to Lynn and synerGy ............. It seems to me that small children are closer to spirit and the truth as they do not have the conditioning,beliefs & fears that we take on as we age. There are numerous accounts of children having recollection of another life, seeing spirits and knowing things that they could not possibly have come into contact with etc.. Their emotions flow freely from joy, laughter to sadness, anger & crying and back to laughter & joy within minutes, keeping them from stagnation. All to often they are told that it is not okay to be a certain way........ The spiritual path is one that brings us closer to our emotions, intuition, psychic abilities and higher level of awareness and understanding. Like freeing our spirit and becoming child-like again but not childish.

                          " Scientists have found that the emotion fear is biochemically manufacture in tiny pathways between nerve cells in a small, almond-shaped structure called the amygdala. The pre-frontal cortex (frontal lobes) is the most advanced part of the human brain, and it has direct connections to the AMYGDALA -- Master Click Switch-- which is the key to turning on or off the Reptialian Brain functions such as self-defense/counter attack, flight or fright ( adrenaline) and other primal emotions that keep most people in survival mode. We are born with the ability to be afraid but learn about most things that make us afraid. Conditioning to frightful experiences or painful situations developed more intense neural connections that keep us in repetitive cycles of behaviour and re-living the past in present situations........ With the tools of brain self-control we can consciously monitor and control the amygdala and activate higher brain processes of creativity, imagination, cooperation,intuition and logic." www.neilslade.com/Papers/fear.html Lots of interesting brain info on site

                          Speaking from my experience .... being very sensitive and very young age ( grade 1-3) I saw an intense movie about a child molester that freaked me out immensely. After a few years they stopped showing it because too many kids were having nightmares. One just has to look to many fairytales and childrens stories to see how much fear - based teaching out there especially around sexuality. Fortunately we are becoming wiser and there is a much wider selection and better quality to choose from these days.

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